I doubt that the moderator will let this comment through, so here goes:
'Where's the line between “every question or comment you think to make has to do with her behavior means you hate women” and “don't ever talk about her behavior, ever.”
Your example - “Well, I don’t believe he should have hit her, but she also shouldn’t have…” - contains a question or comment that is not about her behavior, yet you list it as something said by someone who despises women?
If there was a registry just like Megan’s Law that was dedicated solely to identifying those convicted of domestic violence offenses, would you check it out before you went on a first date with someone?
“The numbers of wounded women and female amputees, meanwhile, are considerably less than their male counterparts–at least 378 wounded versus 17,490; 11 amputees versus over 400–but they are historic for modern day warfare.”
A Pentagon study published in March on the mental health of soldiers returning from deployment to Iraq and Afghanistan found that more than one- third of U.S. soldiers received psychological counseling. A statistic buried in the study: 23.6 percent of women reported a mental health concern compared with 18.6 percent of men.
currently, women are not even required by law to register for selective service, but even mentally challenged and physically disabled men are, in addition to all the healthy ones)
In contrast, women get every veteran’s benefit a man does, yet comprise less than 3% of combat deaths or casualties and a woman makes the cover of Time magazine (person of the year/2003 standing in front of two men.
Men have it rough in the workplace
Men are 93% of industrial deaths and accident (NIOSH)
Even though murder is the leading workplace cause of death for women, a statistic often used by gender feminists, that number is only a percentage of the 6% of workplace deaths that women comprise. In other words, a fraction of a small fraction.
Between 1890 and 1917, two hundred thirty thousand (230,000) [male] railroad workers were killed. One of the most dangerous jobs was “brakeman.” Each car had to be stopped manually and it was the brakeman’s job to stop four or five cars. The brakeman walked on top of the RR cars and turned a wheel, putting the brakes “on” for each car. It was not unheard of for a brakeman to be thrown from the top of a RR car.
Source: Freight Trains, Modern Marvels, The History Channel, 2006
Men die more often from unnatural causes than women
76% of homicide victims – DOJ
80% of Suicide victims – CDC
Suicide ranks 11th among causes of death in the US, with 30,622 completed suicides in 2001. It is the 3rd leading cause of death among people 15 to 24 yr. Men ≥ 75 yr have the highest rate of death by suicide. Among all age groups, male deaths by suicide outnumber female deaths by 4:1.”
“The other most common suicide victims are divorced and/or estranged fathers like Derrick Miller. In fact, a divorced father is ten times more likely to commit suicide than a divorced mother, and three times more likely to commit suicide than a married father.
~Suicide took the lives of 30,622 people in 2001 (CDC 2004). ~Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men (Anderson and Smith 2003). ~24,672 suicide deaths reported among men in 2001 ~24,672 / 30,622 = .8056952 ~In other words, over 80% of all suicide deaths were male.
Of the top fifteen leading causes of death, men lead in 12 categories, are tied in two and trail in one. Even though more women die of heart disease each year, men die of heart disease many years earlier.
Meanwhile A United Nations statistical report compiled from government sources showed that more than 250,000 cases of male-female rape or attempted rape were recorded by police annually. The reported data covered 65 countries.
According to the 2009 United States National Crime Victimization Survey estimates, only 55% of rapes and sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement officials. When a male is raped, less than 10% are believed to be reported. Female-male and female-female rape are ignored altogether in this survey.
Men get screwed over in divorce and custody courts
A woman is the party filing for divorce in about 66% of divorce cases.
“How often was it that many more of women wanted the divorce more than the men? 2/3. The same as the amount responsible for divorce filings. And yet another study of divorced couples found that the majority of divorced wives and husbands both agreed it was the wife who wanted out.”
Women receive custody in about 84% of child custody cases.
In the spring of 2002, an estimated 13.4 million parents had custody of 21.5 million children under 21 years of age whose other parent lived somewhere else. About 5 of every 6 custodial parents were mothers (84.4 percent) and 1in 6 were fathers (15.6 percent), proportions statistically unchanged since 1994
According to Los Angeles divorce consultant Jayne Major:
“Divorced men are often devastated by the loss of their children. It’s a little known fact that in the United States men initiate only a small number of the divorces involving children. Most of the men I deal with never saw their divorces coming, and they are often treated very unfairly by the family courts.’”
Paternity fraud is rampant in the U.S.
30% of those named as fathers who test for paternity find they are not the biological father.
The 2006 United States’ rate of incarceration of 751 inmates per 100,000 population is the highest reported rate in the world, well ahead of the Russian rate of 628 per 100,000.
93% of the prison population is male with over 60% having no High School education. America has now passed Russia as the country that has the largest percentage of its population incarcerated, yet we still claim to be the freest country on earth.
The number of persons on probation and parole has been growing dramatically along with institutional populations. There are now 7.2 million Americans incarcerated or on probation or parole, an increase of more than 290 percent since 1980.
As we saw in the Duke Lacrosse rape case fiasco, false accusers are rarely prosecuted and when they are it is only as a misdemeanor (at most), while rape itself is vigorously prosecuted as a felony. The Duke false accuser, Crystal Gayle Mangum went on to commit assault, arson and finally murder before authorities made a good faith intervention.
One attorney speaking at premiere for the movie, After Innocence, estimates that there are between 20,000 and 100,000 wrongly convicted still in prison.
Valid research puts the estimated false rape reporting rate at 41%
Since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, there have been over 1,200 executions in the United States. Eleven of them, or less than 1%, were women. This stands in stark contrast considering women commit, by DOJ estimates, 10% of all murders, are involved in 35% of all domestic homicides (are involved often means they get other people to kill for them) and nearly 30% of murders where the victim was another family member.
We hear a lot about the historical oppression of women’s voting rights, but few if any women who were born in the 20th century were every without the right to vote in their lifetime, upon reaching legal voting age. On the other hand, around 2400 hundred California men (42% of CA men killed in Vietnam) gave their life for their country without being allowed by their country to vote. The exact number is 2,381. Four of the twelve Iwo Jimo flag raisers died for their country without their country ever allowing them the right to vote.
“The youngest Vietnam KIA is believed to be Dan Bullock USMC, at 15 years old. At least 5 men killed in Vietnam were 16 years old. At least 12 men killed in Vietnam were 17 years old. There are 120 persons who listed foreign countries as their home of record. At least 25,000 of those killed were 20 years old or younger. The oldest man killed was 62 years old.”
If you do a full count on all the men in the 20th century who died for their country without being allowed to vote the numbers will be staggering.
In America there are over 270 women’s commissions, but only one for men in New Hampshire.
There are over 700 Women’s Studies programs on colleges and universities throughout the United States teaching thousands or tens of thousands of classes from the gender feminist perspective, but not one program or class, teaching men’s studies from the masculist perspective.
Men are fully half of the victims of domestic violence (26% of intimate partner homicides), yet are denied service at most tax payer funded domestic violence shelters.
The CDC reports that in cases of non-reciprocal intimate partner violence (one directional) that women are more than twice as likely to be the aggressor. The report cites that women comprise 70% of perpetrators, men 29%.
In the largest collection of studies on intimate partner violence known, Martin Fiebert of the California State University, Longbeach offers the following:
SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.
In another study the CDC lists male victims of domestic violence at more than 34%, but men injured in Iraq (and all other men) are by law in California excluded from domestic violence shelter services. Only one shelter in Lancaster, CA accepts men and it has been extensively harassed for doing so.
That harassment is a systemic problem with origins that emanate from academe. Dr. Murray Straus, an internationally recognized expert on intimate partner violence published the following paper outlining the various ways that feminist ideologues suppress data and research on IPV that demonstrates gender symmetry in its incidence.
Men are subject to extreme discrimination in healthcare.
Men today die on average 6 years sooner than women. In 1920 the variance was one year. The death rates for prostate and breast cancer are similar, but because men die of other things more frequently-accidents ,war, heart disease etc., there are fewer men left to die of prostate cancer. This is akin to saying people from a nation like Zimbabwe are immune to Alzheimer’s- but in fact they die of other things before they can get old enough to contract Alzheimer’s.
To date, there are numerous federal offices on women’s health, and not a single one for men. Also, the lion’s share of gender specific medical research is done on behalf of women.
Men and boys are suffering decline in the educational system. Department of Education graph:
Boys are facing a significantly harder time in early education than girls. Yet girls, from primary education through college still benefit from many more special programs designed to help them gain “equality” with males.
Women as an economically disadvantaged group is a myth that negatively affects men.
Not too long ago, legendary adman David Ogilvy chided his peers for talking down to women. He berated those who ignored women or discounted them, misconstruing men’s higher paychecks to mean greater spending clout. And he was right. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, women–who comprise just over 51 percent of the U.S. population, making them the largest consumer segment in the country–control six trillion dollars in buying power annually. Statistics show that:
Women make 88 percent of all U.S. retail purchases. Some experts even predict that, by 2020, women will control most of the money in America.
Women control 88 percent of all purchases.
Women handle 75 percent of family finances. 43 percent of those with assets over $500,000 are women.
Women influence two out of every three of the 3 trillion dollars spent in the U.S. each year!
From the Sisters4Sisters Yellow Pages:
Women are starting businesses at twice the rate of men.
One out of every 11 American women owns her own business.
Currently there are over 10.6 million women-owned businesses employing 19.1 million people and generating $2.5 trillion in sales.
Women make or influence over 85% of all purchasing decisions.
In 2010, women have the majority of wealth in America.
Men pay the majority of social security taxes and are outlived by six years by women, but the government makes no fair adjustment to how those funds are distributed.
In summary, men experience systematic discrimination in parenting, domestic violence policies, education, criminal sentencing, paternity, forced labor, military conscription, public health policies, genital integrity, false accusations, reproductive rights, portrayal by the media and in the coverage of their issues by the news media.
Misandry is often expressed through racism.
From Scottsboro An American Tragedy.
“The protection of white womanhood, it might be the pivot around all Southern culture. Of the 5,000 people who were lynched from 1880 to 1940, most were black men accused of raping or sexually assaulting white women.” – Robin Kelly, Historian
From American Man
“In 1931, two white women stepped from a boxcar in Paint Rock, Alabama to make a shocking accusation: they had been raped by nine black teenagers on the train.” … ”- a poor white woman whose lie lends her respectability…” PBS Home Video
Scottsboro An American Tragedy The case that sparked the civil rights movement
As we have seen with the “war on drugs,” legislation like VAWA, primary aggressor laws, mandatory arrest laws and the like have a disproportionately negative effect on minorities and other low income populations.
i’ll just throw in some other stuff too, mainly things that feminists obviously don’t give a shit about (despite claiming to care for men’s issues) bc they’re too busy getting hateboners over “Blurred Lines” by Robin Thicke
Yet when rape is discussed in the public sphere, it is always the men that are painted as the rapists and women that are painted as the victims. Jokes about males being raped aren’t just common and accepted, they are expected. Men are taught to follow the rules or they will be punished by rape in prison, “Don’t drop the soap!” even though most men raped in prison/jail, are raped by female prison/jail staff.
The Justice Department came up with a new number: 216,000. That’s 216,000 victims, not instances.These victims are often assaulted multiple times over the course of the year. The Justice Department now seems to be saying that prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008, likely making the United States the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women.
We need to start putting away female rapists, much like we currently put away the male ones.
Rape is never justified, against anyone. My point is that for many rapists it appears to be behavior learned through personal experiences. The only obvious interpretation of this point, at least to me, is that we need to stop both male and female rapists to decrease the number of rapists.
So you wanna run all your claims by me again?
You talking about all that shit?
tell me how delusional I am with all them fucking sources. Tell me how I had no fucking sources.
You fools are sitting around stroking each other’s clits to the post where no one had given any sources yet, so I didn’t bother to link a bunch of shit since, hey if someone is making a bunch of ignorant claims and not backing them up with facts, there’s nothing to fight against other than “you’re stupid and here’s why.”
When bitches wanted to act like they the top shit, I laid the law into them.
but the blog is going on indefinite hiatus. I will keep the site up for archival purposes (and, of course, you can still make your own marms over at MemeGenerator), but due to personal factors and the fact that the meme seems to have run its course, don’t expect anymore updates for the…
for the record, Liz (aka fake mra marmoset) silenced her own voice. it was only a coincidence that she can’t handle the real mra marmoset’s voice
So I just read this entire document. I almost forgot what a complete joke student politics are. If you’re a student, remember that you pay mandatory fees to these jackasses. Consider demanding a better use of your money.
At least half of the motions put forth were deciding to write letters to people. If you are a Canadian student, you are paying these representatives to travel, in some cases across the country, to collectively decide who to write letters to. Think about that one for a second.
Whereas the current name of the Women’s Constituency Group is exclusive, transphobic, and non-inclusive of the diversity of the community; and
Whereas the current language could be updated to reflect the diversity of the community; and
Whereas the Queer Constituency Group addresses issues of sexuality and the Women’s Constituency Group addresses issues of gender; therefore
Be it resolved that the Women’s Constituency Group be renamed the Women and Trans People Constituency Group.
Here they draw a distinction between “exclusive” and “transphobic”, meaning they recognize that the two are different things. So being “exclusive” is in itself a bad, wrong thing to the CFS. Yet they’re only moving to include transpeople, and continuing to exclude men. This violates their own logic and shows where their ideology actually lies.
Page 7 — this one’s really fucking bizarre
Be it further resolved that Standing Resolution 3, article 4 be amended to read:
Anti-Oppression Procedures, Mood-Watchers and information-Helpers
In order to ensure that conversations remain productive and safe, a minimum of one mood-watcher who has undergone training in anti-oppression politics and facilitation frameworks will be appointed by the voting members at the beginning of plenaries.
Professional student thought police! Woo hoo.
Page 17 — this is the MRA one
Whereas there has been an increase in the presence of ‘Men’s Rights Awareness Groups’ on campuses across the country; and
Whereas these groups provide environments for sexism, patriarchy and misogyny to manifest and be perpetuated on campus, which should be safe(r) spaces for students; and
Whereas these groups promote misogynist, hateful views towards women and ideologies that promote gender equity, challenges women’s bodily autonomy, justifies sexual assault, and decries feminism as violent; and
Whereas messages from these groups claim to be of equality, but are in fact messages that are misogynist, sexist, cissexist, heterosexist and homophobic responses to the challenge of cis-male privilege in society; and
Whereas ‘Men’s Rights Awareness Groups’ are attempting to establish chapters and service centers across Canadian colleges and universities; and
Whereas a ‘Men’s Rights Awareness Group’ at the University of Toronto recently held a meeting, which was protested by women and allies, prompting a barrage of threats and attacks on several women on campus and the students union for taking part in protesting this group and its meetings; therefore
Be it resolved that the issues policy ‘Sexual Assault and Violence Against Women on Campus’ be amended to include the following under ‘The Federation opposes’:
campaigns, forums, groups, meetings or events whose purpose is to frighten, intimidate and/or target women students on campus; and
the administration’s lack of response to calls for public support and protection of students being threatened, stalked and/or attacked on campus.
This is such a ridiculous clusterfuck that I don’t even know where to begin commenting. But let’s start with the fact that this is nothing but vague platitudes and indefensible generalizations. “Men’s rights awareness groups” all exist to promote misogyny and hateful views towards women? You’re going to have to prove that one if you want the statement to be legitimate. It’s going to be hard to prove that both a) MRA ideology actually does promote hate, and b) ALL MRA groups promote identical ideologies.
Note the phrasing in the actual amendment. The motion isn’t concerned with groups that frighten, intimidate, or target trans or male people on campus — it is only concerned with women students. So the CFS is implicitly violating its own (ridiculous) ideology by encoding female privilege over trans people (and arguably men, butcertainly trans people).
Whereas the Supreme Court of Canada on October 5, 2012 upheld a law where HIV positive individuals can be charged with aggravated sexual assault for engaging in a sexual act with another person without disclosing their status; and
…Whereas men have used criminal allegations against women living with HIV as a weapon of abuse and this ruling gives abusive men a more powerful tool to coerce, control and to trap in abusive relationships women living with HIV; therefore
Be it resolved that a letter be written to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson and Opposition Justice Critics condemning criminalisation of those who fail to disclose their HIV status and the Supreme Court of Canada’s definition;
Be it resolved that letters be written to the Provincial Attorney Generals calling for an exercise in restraint in prosecutions related to criminalising [sic] those who fail to disclose their HIV status under the Supreme Court of Canada’s definition; [and blah blah blah blah…]
Again, your CFS not giving a fuck about any group of people other than women. How about gay men who are victimized by other HIV-positive men? How about men who are victimized by HIV-positive women? How about trans people who are victimized by men? How about trans people who are victimized by women?
Doesn’t matter, because if you are not a woman, no one cares.